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<subject>Promoted teams</subject>
<author>duncshine</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 16:25</create_date>
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<message>Afternoon all,

Apologies if this is :offtopic: but...

Can people confirm the teams promoted and the Cities they are from in the European leagues...

For example in Scotland:

Relegated: Dundee (from Dundee)
Promoted: Falkirk (between Glasgow and Edinburgh)

Cheers

Duncan</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Francisco</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 16:33</create_date>
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<message>In Portugal:

Relegated:

Moreirense, from Moreira de Cónegos, near Guimarăes city, it&apos;s in the north of Portugal

Beira-Mar, from Aveiro, it&apos;s the 1st team with a new stadium (from Euro2004) to be relegated.

Estoril Praia, from Estoril, it&apos;s near Cascais, which means it&apos;s close to Lisbon.

Promoted:

FC Paços de Ferreira, from Paços de Ferreira. It&apos;s not very far from Porto.

Naval 1şMaio, from Figueira da Foz (it&apos;s a coast city in the center of Portugal, in line with Coimbra, the Mondego river which passes in Coimbra finds the sea in Figueira da Foz)

Estrela da Amadora, from Amadora, very close to Lisbon (more than Estoril)</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>shrike</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 16:55</create_date>
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<message>Holland

Out is FC Den Bosch from Den Bosch
In is Heracles from Almelo

Two more places can be earned by play-off including no.16 and 17 RBC from Roosendaal and De Graafschap from Doetichem. The play-off starts today with two groups with four teams. Both no. 1 from the group will be promoted or will stay at highest level.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Forza-AZ</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 17:20</create_date>
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<message>2nd division teams in the Dutch play-off&apos;s are FC Volendam, Stormvogels Telstar (from Velsen) and VVV (from Venlo) in the group of RBC Roosendaal. And Sparta (from Rotterdam), FC Zwolle and Helmond Sport in the group of De Graafschap (from Doetinchem)</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>seso</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 17:52</create_date>
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<message>Greece: 
Relegated: Kerkyra FC (from Corfu), Ergotelis (from Crete), Aris Thessaloniki (from Thessaloniki).
Promoted: Larissa (from Larissa, city in central Greece), Levadiakos (from Leivadia, small city in central-south Greece), Akratitos (from Athens).</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Aegis</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 17:59</create_date>
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<message>France
promoted : Nancy, Le Mans, Troyes
relegated : Istres and 2 among Nantes, Bastia, Caen, Ajaccio and Bordeaux.

all of them are town name.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Gauss</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 18:11</create_date>
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<message>Germany:
Relegated SC Freiburg, Hansa Rostock, VfL Bochum.
Promoted 1.FC Köln, MSV Duisburg, Eintracht Frankfurt. All of them are &quot;old acquaintances&quot; and had appearances in European competitions in the 90&apos;s. Köln and Frankfurt had been relegated last year, Duisburg 3 years ago.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>AlanK</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 19:44</create_date>
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<message>In Spain it looks like the promoted teams will be Alaves, from Vitoria, capital of Alava province; Celta from Vigo; and Cadiz, from the provincial capital of the same name.  Two others could unseat any of the above: Recreativo de Huelva, from the provincial capital of the same name; and Eibar, from the town where they make firearms in the Basque country.  Four games to go; Alaves has 72 points, Celta 70, Cadiz 68, and the other two 65; Recreativo is at home to Eibar this weekend, so one or both of these two may more-or-less drop out of the running.
Relegated teams: for sure, Numancia, from the provincial capital of Soria; and Albacete, from the provincial capital of the same name.  At the moment, Levante of the city of Valencia is the third victim; Mallorca has a one-point lead over Levante and has the tiebreaker also.  Mallorca is at home to Betis; Levante is away to Villarreal with one game to play.  85-15 in favor of Levante being relegated.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>vlad-tzepesh</author>
<create_date>25-05-2005, 21:19</create_date>
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<message>In Romania the relegated teams are Universitatea Craiova (from Craiova, ~250 km west of Bucuresti), FC Brasov (from Brasov, a town in the S-E part of Transylvania, ~150 km north of Bucuresti) and most probably Apulum Alba-Iulia (from Alba-Iulia, a small town in the heart of Transylvania).
The second division is divided into three separate regional leagues, the team that finishes first in each one promoting to Divizia A. The situation is as follows:
  - B1: FC Vaslui is surely promoted. They are from the town of Vaslui, in Moldova, some 70 km south of Iasi
  - B2: 2 teams are fighting for first place - CS Otopeni (from a small town of 10.000 inhabitants just outside Bucharest) and Pandurii Targu-Jiu (from Targu-Jiu, 100 km N of Craiova)
  - B3: 2 teams are tied in first place - Jiul Petrosani (from the small mining town, N of Targu-Jiu) and Gaz Metan Medias (from Medias, in Transylvania, not far from Alba-Iulia)</message>
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<reply ident="20050526005850" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Skyer</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 00:58</create_date>
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<message>Russia: (the new season is being played now)

Reletated Kuban(Krasnodar), Rotor(Volgograd - right in third division)
Promoted: Terek(Grozny), Tom(Tomsk)</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Lunaris</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 10:39</create_date>
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<message>For austria it will be sv ried (from ried, northwestern austria), they once played in the uefa-cup
relegated is sv bregenz (situated in western austria)

the only other team considered for promotion is sv kapfenberg, who play in central austria, they got a game against their direct opponent in the next and last round, but as in austria the decider is goal-difference they gotta win at least 7-0 what is highly unprobably</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>triki</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 13:49</create_date>
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<message>Serbia and Montenegro:

Relegated:
Borac - from Cacak (central Serbia)
Cukaricki - from Belgrade
Sutjeska - from Niskic (Montenegro)
Hajduk - from Belgrade

Promoted:
Rad - from Belgrade
Buducnost - from Banatski Dvor (Vojvodina, Northern Serbia)
Javor - from Ivanjica (central Serbia)
Jedinstvo - Bijelo Polje (northern Montenegro)</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>vakho</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 14:54</create_date>
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<message>In Sweden as in Russia new season already started.
Last season there were 3 teams relegated:

1. Very famous &quot;AIK Solna&quot; 
(Including resignation of their president Mr. Lennart Johansson :) )
2. Trelleborgs FF   
3. Örebro SK FK, which was relegated because of licensing issues.

3 teams started in new season:

1. BK Häcken from Göteborg
2. Gefle IF from Gävle which is 100 km north of Stockholm
3. Assyriska F , they actually were third and compete with 12th place 
relegation play-off, however lost it but were promoted due to the fact that Örebro were refused license to participate in allsvenskan this year.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Munja</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 14:55</create_date>
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<message>One more information about SCG:

You might remember Buducnost Banatski Dvor from last year when it played UEFA cup or from the year before when it played SCG first league. But, do not try to find Banatski Dvor on any map. I&apos;ve been trying to do it for so long time that I do not still belive that it realy egsists. You will have to settle with Zrenjanin, because some say that it is located only 2 miles from Banatski Dvor.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Forza-AZ</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 16:46</create_date>
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<message>On this map you can find it: [url=http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/mapPerformPage?strAddress=&amp;strCP=&amp;strLocation=banatski+dvor&amp;strCountry=1025346&amp;image2.x=24&amp;image2.y=12]http://www.viamichelin.co.uk[/url].</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>26-05-2005, 17:00</create_date>
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<message>England - Promoted Wigan Athletic and Sunderland plus one of West Ham (London) and Preston North End - Play off Final is on Monday.</message>
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<reply ident="20050602095550" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Ricardo</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 09:55</create_date>
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<message>Swiss play-off:
Schaffhausen - Vaduz 1-1, return 12 June

It would be good for Vaduz to play at a higher level - Will this make Liechtenstein rise another couple of places?</message>
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<reply ident="20050602110334" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Vaduz</subject>
<author>Forza-AZ</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 11:03</create_date>
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<message>I think Vaduz can attract better players if they are promoted, so they have an even better chance of winning in QR1 next season and maybe even get a result in QR2.
That would mean Liechtenstein will get a few places higher again.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Omero</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 11:23</create_date>
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<message>In Israel:

Relegated:

Hapoel Beer SHeva (from Beer Sheva...sounthern of israel...200 km from Tel Aviv)

Hapoel Haifa (from Haifa...north of israel...100 km from Tel Aviv)

Promoted:

Maccabi Netanya (from Netanya...40 km from Tel Aviv...north of israel)

Hapoel Kfar Saba (from Kfar Saba..north of israel...30 km from Tel Aviv)</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>fenerli</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 11:40</create_date>
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<message>In Turkey:
Relegated A.Sebatspor,Istanbulspor,Sakaryaspor
Promoted  Sivasspor,Vestel Manisaspor,Kayseri Erceyesspor</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>toverkol</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 14:04</create_date>
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<message>in Holland play-off competition is halfway, currently in the pormotion spots are Volendam and Helmond Sport. Although Sparta, RBC, Telstar and Graafschap still have their chances. 3 matches to be played, everyone meets eachother once more.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Todor</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 15:06</create_date>
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<message>In Bulgaria:

Relegated : Spartak (Varna) , Nesebar , Vidima-Rakovski

Promoted : Vihren (first promotion to the top level) , Pirin 1922 , Botev (Plovdiv).

Botev are one of the best Bulgarian teams , 4 time champions with big fan base, which have recently financial problems due to their awful management</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>maciosgh</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 15:13</create_date>
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<message>Poland:

At the moment

GKS Katowice relegated (but issued a protest about their last game - even if they get any points their relegation is almost certain)

one more team relegated through playoff against the 4th team in Second Division

Korona Kielce (Kielce) are promoted
GKS Belchatow (Belchatow) 3 points in 3 games to be promoted
Arka Gdynia (Gdynia) 5 points in 3 games to be promoted
Widzew Lodz (Lodz) playoff place</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 15:27</create_date>
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<message>Albania - Promoted: Besa Kavaje. Relegated : Egnotia R. Laci.

Andorra - Promoted: Don Pernil (Santa Coloma). R : Gran Valica FC Encamp.

Azerbaijan - Promoted : AMMK Baku,Energetik Mingacevir. R: - MOIK, Adliyya, Bakili, Safa - all from Baku. I guess this means a reduction from 18 to 16 in top league. 

More to follow...</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>putzeijs</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 15:34</create_date>
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<message>For Belgium:
Relegated Oostende and Mons. Two typical jo-jo teams. 
Promoted: Roeselare (totaly new on top level) and Zulte Waregem. This last team is rebuild on the fundamentals of SV Waregem who eliminated AC Milan in 1986, before reaching the semi finals.</message>
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<reply ident="20050602162150" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>onisilos</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 16:21</create_date>
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<message>Cyprus:


Relegated: 

Aris-Limassol, 

Alki-Larnaka, 

AEP-Paphos.


Promoted:

APOP/Kinyras Peyias - Paphos, Peyia is a village just outside Paphos

APEP-Kyperounta is a village on mountain Troodos and belongs to the district of Limassol

THOI Lakatameias - Suburb of Nicosia.</message>
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<reply ident="20050602225607" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Juda_cossa</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 22:56</create_date>
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<message>Bosnia Herzegovina-

Relegated-FK Borac Banja Luka, FK Rudar Ugljevik
Promoted-Radnik Bijeljina and one more from Prva Liga FBiH

Croatia-

Relegated-NK Zadar
Promoted-HNK Cibalia Vinkovci

And Medimurje Cakovec(1st league) and NK Novalja(2nd league) will play in the play-off.

Georgia-

Relegated-Kolkheti 1913 Poti, Dila Gori
Promoted-FK Borjomi, FC Ameri Tblisi

Hungary-

Relegated-Nyírégyhazi Spartacus FC, Békéscsaba EFC
Promoted-Lombard FC Tatabánya, Rákospalotai EAC

Luxembourg-

Relegated-US Luxembourg, CA Spora Luxembourg
Promoted-UN Kaerjang, US Rumelange

Macedonia-

Relegated-FK Sloga Skopje, FK Napredok Kicevo
Promoted-Vllazrimi Kicevo, FK Makedonija Skopje

And in the play-offs-
FK Cementarnica(1st league) - Turnovo(2nd league)
FK Madzhari(1st league) - Renova(2nd league)

Malta-

Relegated-St. Patrick FC, Lija Athletics FC
Promoted-Hamrun Spartans FC, Mosta FC

Northern Ireland-

Relegated-Omagh Town, Crusaders Belfast(lost play-off)
Promoted-Armagh City, Glenavon Lurgan(won play-off)

Wales-

Relegated-Afan Lido
Promoted-Grange Quins

*Cymru Alliance champions Buckley Town and runner up Glantraeth don&apos;t meet the Welsh Premier League rules, Cefn Druids AFC doesn&apos;t relegate.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>larare</author>
<create_date>02-06-2005, 23:39</create_date>
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<message>Vakho has given you the Swedish teams. Assyriska Föreningen comes from Södertälje, 40 km south of Stockholm.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>03-06-2005, 12:59</create_date>
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<message>A few more .. and some confirmations/corrections. 

Czech Republic - Ceske Budejovice and Opava relegated. FC Siad Most promoted. 3 other teams in contention for final promotion place. 

Slovakia. Rimavska Sobota relegated. FC Nitra 6 points ahead of Steel Trans Licertovce with 2 to play so promotion almost certain. 

Slovenia. One off Rudar Velenje and Nafta (Lendova) will be promoted automatically. The other will enter a play off with FC Koper. Zagorje relegated. (Note however that - according to rsssf.com Olimpija have been refused a license and if this decision is upheld promotion/relegation may be affected. 

Switzerland - play-off already covered. Servette demoted. Yverdon-Sport achieved automatic promotion.

Ukraine - Obolon Kyiv and Borysfen Boryspil relegated. Stal&apos; Alchevs&apos;k promoted along with one of Arsenal Kharkiv or Zorja Luhansk. 

Italy - promotions not yet known. Relegated Brescia, Atalanta and one from a play-off between Bologna and Parma. 

Moldova - again promotions unknown but Steaua Chisinau down and Unisport-Auto Chisinau must play a relegation play-off. 

England - 3rd team promoted West Ham United.

Confirmations. 

Spain - Levante relegated. 

Romania - Apulum Alba Iulia relegated. 

Corrections.

1.Juda_Cossa (2/6). Tatabanya indeed promoted in Hungary but no longer called Lombard Tatabanya. se separate &quot;Hungarian question&quot; thread. 

2. Juda_Cossa (2/6). For Macedonia I think there is an error on rsssf.com. They show Makedonija GP promoted from Level 2 but show the same team in a promotion/relegation play-off rather than the 3rd team Renova (Cepchiste). The two teams finished level on points. www.ffm.com.mk shows Renova second and they had the better head to head record so I think they were automatically promoted and Makedonija GP are in a play-oo with Madzari. Other play-off Turnovo v Cementarnica. 

3. Team from Katowice are indeed relegated - now Dospel Katowice not GKS. (Sorry author original not noted). 

4. Triki 26/5. Promotion of Rad (Belgrade) not yet confirmed although I agree it is 95% sure! 

5. Vlad-tzepesh 25/5. Details given correct but there are still 4 teams in contention for promotion from Seria 2. Add FC Sibiu and Petrolul Ploiesti to those already given. 

Also came across two &quot;amusing&quot; or should I say &quot;horrendous&quot; cases while researching the above but will put those on a seperate thread!</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>maciosgh</author>
<create_date>03-06-2005, 15:45</create_date>
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<message>To badgerboy:

The team from Katowice was Dospel a year ago, right now I am certain that it&apos;s GKS Katowice as it has been for most of it&apos;s history.

About their relegation - I agree that their chances are minimal but they HAVE issued an official protest about their last game (a walk over awarded to Odra) and if it will get a positive reply they still have the slightest of chances.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>maciosgh</author>
<create_date>04-06-2005, 18:22</create_date>
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<message>GKS Belchatow now officially promoted to the Polish Ekstraklasa.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>05-06-2005, 14:11</create_date>
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<message>macsiogh - I got &quot;Dospel&quot; Katowice from rsssf.com. Haven&apos;t checked other sources so wont argue too much. 

And I certainly wont contradict you on your point about their appeal. You know more about this than I. When I used the phrase &quot;are indeed relegated&quot; I was just intending to confirm everything else you said was true and I was merely correcting the name. Bad use of words!</message>
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<reply ident="20050605165039" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>maciosgh</author>
<create_date>05-06-2005, 16:50</create_date>
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<message>Frankly speaking it will surely turn out that you were right - even if their appeal is taken into account (in which nobody believes) they only have a theoretical chance of staying up.

As to &quot;Dospel&quot;, one of the biggest air-condition makers in Poland they were the clubs sponsors as long as the club played good and their finances stayed clear (for Polish football). As soon as bad things started to happen they left the club.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>06-06-2005, 14:23</create_date>
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<message>Celta Vigo up in Spain and Empoli in Italy.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>SueB</author>
<create_date>06-06-2005, 14:25</create_date>
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<update_date>06-06-2005, 14:58</update_date>
<message>One of the promoted teams in Italy is Empoli. The second will be known after this weekend&apos;s games. The third will be determined after a 4-team playoff.

Sorry didn&apos;t see Empoli mentioned in the LAST post. Doh. Anyway, Genoa is currently in the other spot for promotion but could be caught by Torino or Perugia.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>dinamozagreb</author>
<create_date>06-06-2005, 15:03</create_date>
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<update_date>06-06-2005, 15:04</update_date>
<message>Croatia:

Me&amp;#273;imurje beat Novalja in play-off: 2-0,1-1.

So Zadar out, Cibalia Vinkovci in.</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Kronsky</author>
<create_date>06-06-2005, 16:45</create_date>
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<message>GKS Katowice (former Dospel Katowice) is down to second division, now definitely.

GKS Belchatow, Korona Kielce and Arka Gdynia whent up to Extraklasa. The fight for the last place looks to be between Odra Wodzislaw and Widzew Lodz/ Podbieskidzie or Kujawiak. Widzew Lodz is &quot;old firm&quot; that played in CL before and I hope that they will be promoted now when Boniek is involved in the club.

Best regards
Kronsky</message>
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<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Forza-AZ</author>
<create_date>07-06-2005, 12:30</create_date>
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<message>Yesterday in the Netherlands De Graafschap was relegated.

Earlier relegated: Den Bosch
Earlier promoted: Heracles

Last decisions will be on Thursday.

Helmond Sport and Sparta will play each other with the winner being promoted (Sparta is also promoted with a draw).

RBC is almost certain of staying in the eredivisie. They are 3 points clear and have a better goaldifference (+7 compared to +2) than Volendam. RBC plays away to VVV and Volendam at home to Telstar.</message>
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<subject>Re: Summerleagues</subject>
<author>mapfumo</author>
<create_date>07-06-2005, 20:04</create_date>
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<message>Dear Juda-Cossa

I don&apos;t mind mentioning data from our site, but don&apos;t forget to mention the source. That&apos;s not nice for people who do the work.
On EFS you can find a weekly updated overview of relegated and promoted teams in European leagues. You can also find each countries rules.

[URL=http://european-football-statistics.co.uk]European Football Statistics[/URL]</message>
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<reply ident="20050607204118" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>07-06-2005, 20:41</create_date>
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<message>Thanks mapfumo. Had a look at the site. Don&apos;t think I&apos;d come across it before. Some interesting info. What are the sources for attendances? I know Tony Kempster has a great site for all levels of the English game.  

It confirms (as does rsssf.com) that Arsenal Kharkiv have now been promoted in Ukraine.  

Still showing incorrect promotion details for Macedonia I think though. 

And at the moment the link to &quot;Promotion and Relegation rules 2004&quot; doesn&apos;t work. Goes to list of teams promoted/relegated in the current year instead.</message>
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<reply ident="20050609221308" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Forza-AZ</author>
<create_date>09-06-2005, 22:13</create_date>
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<message>Sparta Rotterdam is promoted today. They are back after 3 years in the 2nd division.

RBC Roosendaal kept it&apos;s eredivisie status today.

Already promoted: Heracles Almelo (back after 19 years!!!)

Already relegated: FC Den Bosch &amp; De Graafschap (Doetinchem), both after just 1 year in the eredivisie.</message>
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<reply ident="20050611173635" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>11-06-2005, 17:36</create_date>
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<message>Just seen on UEFA site (reported yesterday) that Celta Vigo have been docked the three points they received for their latest victory after fielding an ineligible player. Their promotion is therefore back in the melting pot...</message>
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<reply ident="20050611201857" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>maciosgh</author>
<create_date>11-06-2005, 20:18</create_date>
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<message>Poland again:

Promoted: Korona Kielce, GKS Belchatow, Arka Gdynia

Relegated: GKS Katowice

One more place decided in a playoff between the 13th Ekstraklasa team Odra Wodzislaw and 4th Second League team Widzew Lodz (would be nice to have them back :grin:)</message>
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<reply ident="20050612230407" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>isidromv</author>
<create_date>12-06-2005, 23:04</create_date>
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<message>In Spain, Alaves is a new team of Primera División, if the fA agrees, of course. Celta has lost its match against Eibar (4th), there are still 2 open spots for 4 teams.

Current standings, 1 match to go:

1 	Alavés 	76
2 	Cádiz 	73
3 	Celta 	73
4 	Eibar 	72
5 	Recreativo 	70</message>
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<reply ident="20050612233116" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Michele</author>
<create_date>12-06-2005, 23:31</create_date>
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<message>In Denmark, relegated Randers (from Eastern Jutland, not too far away from Ĺrhus)
99.9% certain Herfřlge (Southern part of Zealand)

Promoted teams: Horsens (Eastern Jutland, close to where Funen and Jutland meet)

favourite: SřnderjyskE (Southern part of Jutland, in the city of Haderslev)

outsider: FREM (Valby, South-West part of Copenhagen)</message>
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<reply ident="20050613004254" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>porto-1978</author>
<create_date>13-06-2005, 00:42</create_date>
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<message>Isidromv, can you tell me with who play Celta de Vigo (my favourite club in Spain)?

This is a really nice topic, by the way.</message>
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<reply ident="20050613093102" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>isidromv</author>
<create_date>13-06-2005, 09:31</create_date>
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<message>See [URL=http://marcawas5.recoletos.es/Estadisticas/LigaFutbol/Controlador?opcion=1&amp;jornada=42&amp;competicion=2&amp;grupo=1&amp;temporada=2004-05]here the latest matches in Spanish 2nd Division.[/URL]
By the way, Celta looses head to heado against all the other 3 teams involved in promotion.</message>
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<reply ident="20050613105225" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>Ricardo</author>
<create_date>13-06-2005, 10:52</create_date>
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<message>Vaduz again did [i]not[/i] made it to the first division. They lost at home from Schaffhausen 0-1(after a 1-1 away match). Disappointing for them. For us luckily no difficult discussion if they could end up playing CL for the Swiss. They will try again next season(starting July 16th!)
So Schaffhausen stays in Swiss PL.</message>
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<reply ident="20050613122750" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>isidromv</author>
<create_date>13-06-2005, 12:27</create_date>
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<update_date>13-06-2005, 12:35</update_date>
<message>There were a mistake in my previous post, Celta wins head to head to Recreativo. The only possibility for Recreativo is if ALL the following happen:

1. They win.
2. Cadiz looses.
3. Celta does not loose.
4. Eibar looses.
5. They get 20 goals more than Cadiz (they are equal in head to head).</message>
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<reply ident="20050613150849" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>AlanK</author>
<create_date>13-06-2005, 15:08</create_date>
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<update_date>13-06-2005, 15:10</update_date>
<message>I read the &quot;rules&quot; that cost Celta the game they won on the field against Xerez a week ago--man, talk about confusing obscurity (or obscure confusion).  Looks and feels as though Celta got a raw deal--win it on the field, lose it in the boardroom.  Celta must beat Lleida away next Saturday if they are to be assured the coveted &quot;ascenso.&quot;  Go, Celta!  Go Cadiz.  Win those tough games!</message>
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<reply ident="20050614143320" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>badgerboy</author>
<create_date>14-06-2005, 14:33</create_date>
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<message>Bosnia - Jedinstvo (Bihac) have overtaken Velez (Mostar) to win Prva Liga FBiH and hence promotion. 

Czech Republic - Another last day turnaround as FC Vysocina Jihlava won promotion at the expense of Victoria Plzen. 

Italy - Genoa have joined Empoli in the top flight. Perugia, Torino, Treviso and Ascoli are in the play offs. 

Macedonia - following the play-offs Cementarnica stayed up and Makedonija GP were promoted while Madzari were relegated and Turnovo stayed at the second level. 

Moldova - Dinamo Bender promoted as champions. Politehnica Chisinau finished second and I think enter a play-off with Unisport Auto Chisinau for the final place in the top division. 

Romania - Panduril Ligniul Targu Jiu and Jiul Petrosani both promoted. 

Slovakia - FC Nitra promoted. 

Slovenia - Rudar Velenje promoted. Nafta Lendava finished second and were due to play a promotion-relegation play off with FC Koper but I am unsure what happened about this as Olimpija Ljubljana were apparently refused a licence and were to be forcibly relegated.</message>
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<reply ident="20050618203815" topic="20050525162534">
<subject>Re: Promoted teams</subject>
<author>AlanK</author>
<create_date>18-06-2005, 20:38</create_date>
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<message>In Spain, Cadiz and Celta join Alaves in First Division.  Xerez 0, Cadiz 2 and Lleida 0, Celta 2 were the big scores.  Final standings: 1. Cadiz--76 points; 2. Celta--also 76 points; 3. Alaves--also 76 points!!!</message>
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